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Elise DarkStar
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Posted - 2011.10.03 14:16:00 -
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Vile rat wrote:My prediction
Agreed.
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Elise DarkStar
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Posted - 2011.10.03 21:53:00 -
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Ya, it was a nice try, but fighting hisec ice mining is like battling with omnipotence itself.
Goons lose, iceminers win. All those extra topes on the market should make running towers on 200 pu oxy topes pretty sweet. |
Elise DarkStar
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Posted - 2011.10.03 22:20:00 -
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I'm not doubting goons commitment, but they failed to foresee the extent that ice miners would adapt their tactics. There are already a growing number mining happily away, and as their trick spreads, this number will quickly grow until the ice fields are full of miners again in like 2 days max.
It was a nice idea, but just didnt work out. |
Elise DarkStar
DarkCorp Capital Group
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Posted - 2011.10.04 12:30:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:aww look at this adorable post from the perspective of today with devastated, empty fields and miners running from gallente space, even amarr miners now being killed just for sport because genesis is just across the border
we are devoting perhaps one quarter of one of our tech moons worth of income to have bounties on miners, and the alliance is becoming addicted to the carnage
build more brutixes, md; build more brutixes.
Look at this damage control.
Really looking forward to seeing how you guys spin your "decision" to wind this down today/tomorrow.
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Elise DarkStar
DarkCorp Capital Group
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Posted - 2011.10.04 13:48:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:i forget which idiot elise is but i remember chuckling over tons of stupid **** she's said in here
That's Mr Idiot to you.
I give up. I was hoping I could get in on 30m+ units of oxytopes at 500-600 pu or so yesterday, but it never quite made it that low, and that ship has now sailed.
I actually have no idea what's going on in the ice belts.
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Elise DarkStar
DarkCorp Capital Group
DarkCorp Imperium
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Posted - 2011.10.04 15:00:00 -
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Vile rat wrote:I've addressed this already.
I think I was 1/2 day too late, if I had started earlier I could have pulled enough of it down with throwaway sell orders and General Discussion, hisec-****** fearmongering (or I guess "false-hope-inspiring", depending on which side of the ice belt you're on). Unfortunately the rebound was already in full swing by the time I started.
Ah well, it's a pretty small daily traded value market for what I do, with the huge volatility barely making it worthwhile to take a crack at. |
Elise DarkStar
DarkCorp Capital Group
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Posted - 2011.10.04 16:16:00 -
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Claire Voyant wrote:#1 Both Oxygen and Nitrogen Isotopes are in the top 20 most heavily traded items in Jita, measured by average isk volume.
Yup. The normal isotope market is too small for what I do.
Claire Voyant wrote:#2 Huge volatility is what makes it worthwhile to trade.
I know. That's why I said the huge volatility was enough to suddenly make the market worth taking a crack it, if just barely.
I hope that clears things up for you.
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Elise DarkStar
DarkCorp Capital Group
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Posted - 2011.10.04 16:44:00 -
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RAW23 wrote:Elise Would it be impertinent of me to wonder whether the thing that really grates about MD investing for you is that it drowns out your attempts to corrupt the flow of information for your own purposes? 
rofl
I wouldn't say it's that specific, but definitely because it interrupts and overshadows market discussions, of which potentially profitable information is a part. Absolutely.
Also, please be impertinent. Say what you think and feel. There's far too much angling and posturing in this world. |
Elise DarkStar
DarkCorp Capital Group
DarkCorp Imperium
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Posted - 2011.10.04 17:08:00 -
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DON HONDURAS wrote:"Didn't want those profits anyway"?
lmao
you got me. gotta keep my epeen from going eflacid
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Elise DarkStar
DarkCorp Capital Group
DarkCorp Imperium
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Posted - 2011.10.06 13:33:00 -
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That's 173b profit, revenue was 350b; idk if that makes a difference to your point.
I think if nullsec alliances were dedicated to making money, they would make a lot more. I'm sure there are supercap producing indy renter corporations who top 200b a month profit, but that's because it's the purpose of their organization, whereas as many spaceholding corps last precisely because they poor a lot of money right back into their members getting blown up in space. |
Elise DarkStar
DarkCorp Capital Group
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Posted - 2011.10.06 13:51:00 -
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Don't be. The most valuable resource for spaceholding is an active pvp culture.
Industrial wings that do any more than provide infrastructure for that goal usually end up being a cancer to that very culture. |
Elise DarkStar
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Posted - 2011.10.06 14:12:00 -
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RAW23 wrote:I understand how a focus on individual isk-making can undermine morale and community (e.g. NC and Atlas) but I'm struggling to see what the negative effect would be of utilising, say, 30 members of an enormous alliance in a way that doubled or tripled the income received directly from holding space.
That's a fair point, and I believe that's the direction Goons are going with their "finance" or "market" team. The historically corrosive effect is why modern top-end alliances are hesitant to go down that road, though you're right in that there is obviously some optimum balance that can be met. |
Elise DarkStar
DarkCorp Capital Group
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Posted - 2011.10.06 15:44:00 -
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Atima wrote:I was refering to reaction towers. You're going to have atleast 2 weeks stockpile with those even. The thing to remember is research POS have a hard cap on how many you need ( how many slots you can manage ) and you only have to go to the tower to refuel/pick up BPC. With reaction towers its much different - There is no point holding loads of fuel and less reactants - you're going to need to go to jita anyway, plus you can utilise the value of the stockpile into more towers.
This was my experience with running a medium-size (10) reaction farm.
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Elise DarkStar
DarkCorp Capital Group
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Posted - 2011.10.07 19:34:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:i'm bored as hell at 33 so it ain't all wine and roses
Write a book.
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Elise DarkStar
DarkCorp Capital Group
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Posted - 2011.10.07 22:52:00 -
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Vio Geraci wrote:Please do not encourage him.
Dude, you're dissuading an opinionated, intelligent, independent wordsmith from tackling issues in the modern intellectual landscape? That's the contemporary version of stabbing the caveman who's showing everyone how to start fire.
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